MMD Kochi :: 2MFG Oral Questions :: Function I :: Sep 2019 (Part- I)

Capt. GEORGE

External Surveyor: Capt. George | Internal Surveyor: Capt. Parthasarthy | 19.09.2019

External Surveyor Questions

  • ROR Rule 2
  • Meaning of exonerating, and as OOW, how you are not exonerated with ROR
  • Rule 7, 13, 17, 19
  • Situation crossing, overtaking (he need to hear aspect and while taking action do trial manoeuver before)and in RV 5 vessel around you
  • Cards: PDV, Towing, RAM, NUC, CBD, Trawler, Aground & inconspicuous vessel card. (he wanna hear something else other than in the card of the inconspicuous vessel)
  • Flags
  • Passage plan in charts from berth to berth
  • How to correct charts
  • How to know you are having the latest edition of the charts? From which publication you can find it?
  • Small scale and large scale corrections?
  • T&P?
  • How to correct a chart which is not corrected for the last 2 years
  • Aid to Navigation? Enlist aid to navigation.
  • Radio Navigational Warning
  • Head control and track control
  • Fire in the galley. Action as OOW?
  • Received a distress signal at sea via VHF. Actions? (Note: don’t tell acknowledge or relay it..its masters responsibility)
  • What are the rain and sea clutter controls of Radar? how it works, technical explanations are required.
  • Wheelhouse poster information
  • Emergency steering procedures
  • Volumes of IAMSAR, which volume is carried onboard
  • As a second off. action in steering gear failure
  • NUC vessel light and shape
  • How to do a great circle sailing on the Mercator chart?
  • Publications
  • Notices that we get onboard
  • How to order ASD (how to know which volume which covers which region? Answer. Refer chart catalog
  • Passage plan on ECDIS and chart
  • All ECDIS settings
  • Pre-departure test
  • Steering gear test
  • How you will take a sight(explain all)
  • Amplitude
  • GPS failure action
  • Magnetic compass errors
  • Rule 13,19
  • So many situations eg: TSS(quote the rule properly)
  • Transverse thrust
  • Radar plotting
  • So many cross questions

Internal Surveyor Questions

  • Isolated danger buoy
  • Action by stand on vessel
  • What action if give way vessel not taking any action in crossing situation (tell 17c)

Internal Surveyor: Capt. Parthasarathy | External Surveyor: Capt. George +1 | 23.07.2019

  • Passage plan entirely
  • Rule 13,8,19
  • IAMSAR
  • control test
  • Turning circle
  • Situation
  • ECDIS
  • More questions

Internal Surveyor: Parthasarathy | External Surveyor: Capt. George along with other 2 guys | 17.07.2019

External Surveyor

  • Passage Plan
    • What are the publications, their parts, volume contents, sections, the information you get, have you seen all these publications?
    • Do you know how to use it, How to contact different regions on VHF?
    • From where you get their channel details?
    • Whom you call/report when you are on international Waters? how u make that call?
    • You are entering the Indian ocean, whom, how & what you report? Which equipment do you use?
    • Leading lights, purpose, info’s they provide, in fog how you find it?+ some more cross)
  • Charts
    • How do you know charts are ‘really’ updated? someone could be just writing the NTM numbers below, where you can find the date of publications of the chart, from the chart how to know international Waters,
    • At what interval they make new charts, how you correct a chart that is not corrected for a year?
    • What info do you get from Lighthouse? what r the details given abt the lighthouse in charts? Can you find a lighthouse in fog?+some more.
  • Celestial Navigation
    • Position Fixing methods, the best time to take a sight, why?
    • How you do it, explain, how you take the sun, explain,
    • explain the entire process, how/have you done it on board.

  • Passage plan in detail
  • control test with full details
  • ALRS and its contents
  • Sight calculation in detail
  • Sextant
  • And rapid cross-questions from all 3 surveyors.

Internal Surveyor

  • Rule 18, & the lights of all the vessels in that rule,
  • Leading lights
  • Lighthouse details
  • Aground Vessel ahead, action? (+ Some more simple & direct questions)
  • Crossing situation action
  • Headon situation action
  • Light signal of few vessels
  • Restricted visibility actions
  • Action when a collision with a fishing vessel happens
  • Aground Vessel lights
  • Aground vessel right ahead. action
  • Restricted visibility, hearing fog signal of other vessels. action
  • Use of leading lights.

External Surveyor: Capt. George | Internal Surveyor: Capt. Parthasarathy | 16.07.2019

  • Passage plan from Kochin to Dubai
  • ECDIS error
  • Things to be checked on ECDIS prior to making passage plan
  • T & P corrections
  • Examples for T&P Corrections
  • How the charts are corrected
  • NTM in detail
  • How A.L.L comes in use during daytime
  • Safety settings on ECDIS
  • Off course alarm in port
  • Control test in detail (each thing have to be explained clearly)
  • Situation: overtaking (methods to find how you are 22.5 degrees abaft from another vessel

  • Passage planning with ECDIS and on paper (with Publications
  • Departure Port Checklists
  • Steering gear test procedures and regulation (timings needed)
  • Autopilot Off-track alarm testing
  • ECDIS what all data to feed
  • Safety contours and UKC
  • Taking overwatch
  • Gyro failure action
  • Rules 2,7,13 etc.
  • Cards and Situations
  • Gyro Errors High and Low
  • Magnetic Errors and Naming
  • Types of Horizons and Great Circle
  • Amplitude
  • IAMSAR patterns
  • Grounding actions

  • Cold front, Warm front, occultive front
  • Actions on receiving a DSC distress signal?
  • Accommodation fire, action?
  • Fire in galley action. Type of fire fighting system in galley
  • Which type of extinguisher is used on an electrical fire.
  • Steering gear failure, actions.
  • Why is fog signal included in the admiralty list of fog signals?
  • Transverse Thrust.
  • Gave me a target vessel on my port bow and said to take action. he wants first to hear that we figure out whether a collision exists, then looking at the aspect we decide which action to take. Also, he wants us to first determine whether is it a crossing situation or overtaking. we need to eliminate the overtaking situation if we need to prove it is crossing since overtaking has the most power among all the rules.
  • Few more situations. He wants to hear about the trial maneuver.
  • Around 20 cards- only identification
  • Passage plan on ECDIS.
  • Safety settings on ECDIS.
  • Rules 5, 13, 19
  • And some more questions.

External Surveyor: Capt. George | Internal Surveyor: Capt. Parthasarathy | 17.05.2019


  • Started with Passage planning both in ECDIS and on a Paper chart from a port in Japan to Long Beach, USA.
  • What all checks to be done before passage planning on ECDIS.
  • How to know charts are updated
  • How to check echo sounder is giving correct depths
  • Quote and explain Rule 2, 7, 13
  • Pre-departure tests
  • T&P correction-How to do on charts
  • Gyro Failure -Action
  • Fire in accommodation -What are your duties as a Second Mate
  • IAMSAR
  • Full form of OSC
  • Overtaking Situation in RV nd in Sight (He wants to hear about the aspect)
  • How to take radio medical advice and full form of CIRM
  • How many gyro repeaters onboard.
  • Testing of Off-course alarm at the port.

External Surveyor: Capt. George | Internal Surveyor: Capt. Parthasarathy | 26.04.2019

  • Passage Plan from Dubai to Cochin on ECDIS? (Answer- APEM. Practical things only. As soon as I finished with the Appraisal Part, he asked me what all checks will you perform on ECDIS? He wants to hear the settings part. Layer checks, Draft settings, Depth settings, Alarms, Password protected content, Charts should be updated and in order for the intended passage, etc.)
  • How will you know charts are updated?
  • Charts update are written but not updated
  • Before sailing what all checks need to be done
  • How to check Echo Sounder is correct
  • Pivot point
  • Distress signal received. Action?
  • Distress??
  • Situation
  • Cards
  • Rules 2, 7, 13, 19
  • Trial maneuver
  • Testing of off-course alarm on autopilot
  • Distress signal received. Action
  • RCC OSC
  • Man over-board. Action?
  • Fire on galley action
  • Notwithstanding meaning
  • Types of nav warning
  • How to check eco Sounder, not working
  • IAMSAR
  • Celestial method of position fixing
  • Flags
  • MOB-distress or urgency
  • Squat

  • Passage Plan from Kochi to Dubai
  • passage plan from Kochi to Dubai in ECDIS
  • how will we know charts are corrected up to date
  • What if the notice number is just written with out actually doing the correction?
  • Limitations of ECDIS.
  • Errors of ECDIS
  • The latest regulation of ECDIS (some key features only master can access and make changes)
  • What is GPS (in brief)
  • How to find a position without GPS (and celestial and terrestrial observations)
  • Means of celestial position finding
  • Long by chron method
  • When to take the altitude of the Sun in long by chron
  • Gyro Compass failed. Actions
  • Alarms of auto pilot and how to check
  • Test control procedure before departure
  • IMO Regulation of Rudder sweep for tankers
  • Rules 5, 6, 7, 8, 13, 15, 19, 20
  • Cards:- Pilot boat, RAM, NUC, Aground, day card for vessel aground, day card for towing vsl, special mark, region b preffered channel to port
  • Situations:-overtaking, crossing, head on (normal visibility)
  • How to determine an overtaking situation at day time (needs to hear radar plotting)

  • Publications, contents, use, differences?
  • What are Navigational Warnings?
  • Where do you get them from and where do you receive them?
  • What all information do you get from them? (Met warnings such as the development of TRS, Waves, winds, currents, ice, etc.; Derelicts; Floating objects/debris; Any changes lights or Aids to Nav; Military exercises; ICEBERGS the point I missed. He told me that this one was the most important in cold regions)
  • How will you ascertain position from a celestial body?
    (All the methods in Cel Nav, DO NOT FORGET TO MENTION the use of SEXTANT to obtain multiple LOPs to obtain a fix. I elaborated on the noon position. He asked me whether I had performed the same onboard. No Sir was my reply to which he said, Let’s move on then. No point in asking as you’re familiar with the theory/concept)
  • You are a third mate onboard a product tanker, what all checks and control tests will you perform? (Just say everything you did on board whilst the ship was preparing for departure, he will be cross-questioning a lot)
  • Cards 15-20 (Day and Night, Please don’t screw this up else game over. He only needs the lights, will not bother you with Action, Shapes and RV Signals)
  • Situation:
    OWN PD Vessel at 000, Target PDV at starboard bow, 5nm. Action.
    OWN PD Vessel at 000, Target PDV at the port bow, 7nm. Action.
    Now the second situation is where it gets tricky. If you say I will take action according to a crossing situation, game over. The main keyword here is ASPECT. I drew a diagram of the aspect to prove that the vessel on the port bow was in fact a Crossing vessel and not an Overtaken Vessel. A lot of cross-questioning.
  • How many gyro repeaters onboard?
  • Tests for Steering gear before Departure?
  • Difference between Track Control and Heading control?
  • Manoeuvring and Wheelhouse poster?
  • Propellers behaviors? And what happens when moving astern?
    (Right hand tends the stern to CAN’T to Starboard. Helical discharge, more pressure on the lower blades. Read about this thoroughly)

  • Pivot Point and its effects on maneuvering?
  • Rule number 2? Meaning of EXONERATE?
  • Rule 9?
  • Rule 13? Meaning of NOTWITHSTANDING?
  • Rule 19 Situation and according to which part?
    (Situation was, a vessel on our port bow and we are overtaking the vessel. Action according to Rule 19d(i). I said, We can pass from either side but will choose to pass on her starboard side as it is a good seamanship practice.
  • No objections from his side)
  • Rule 41
  • Do you know how to prepare the muster list? (I replied yes to which he asked me the procedure. I said, Just copy the name of the new crew member into the Word file with the name MUSTER LIST, print out and replace on board
  • He started laughing and said, Shipping is ruined)
  • Errors of echo sounder ( Do not forget about AERATION. Though it’s not listed as an error in the book you need to say it)
  • Why RADARs are Sea Stabilized? When is it Ground Stabilized?
  • Discussion and cross-questioning about my experience as to what an OOW does during bridge duties!

VERY IMPORTANT: ACTION IN MOB (My answer was the same as given in BPG or Polaris but that is wrong. THAT ACTION IS FOR A MASTER, NOT A THIRD MATE. According to Capt. George, as soon as the master comes on the bridge, you are no longer responsible to take any further actions. You are to follow the commands of the Master. Also, the MOB checklist states that CHANGE AUTO TO HAND STEERING after altering your course, releasing the MOB marker, and informing everybody. This is not possible because if you try to alter your course using autopilot, it won’t give a rudder order of more than 10-15 degrees depending on your A/P settings and you need to execute hard over. I asked him about this doubt and this is what he told me. ALWAYS CHANGE OVER TO MANUAL FROM AUTO AND HARD OVER TO CASUALTY SIDE, then release MOB marker and…


  • Action for an accommodation fire (Only what a third mate is supposed to do, not what a master does according to the BPG)
  • Did you receive a distress message/alert? Action? (INFORM MASTER AND NEVER ACCEPT. Note the details down)
  • Factors affecting maneuvering of a vessel?
  • Squat?
  • Many more questions which I don’t remember. In the end, he asked me how my performance was to which I said Okay-ish
  • He said The internal is new. He will ask you some questions. Think before you answer and don’t be over smart. You did well, just don’t muck this up
  • Internal: He called me in, saw my ex sheet, and said, How did you get Fun 2,3 from Mukhopadhyay. Did you go to Kolkata?
  • I told him that he was in Kochi in Feb. He just read my remarks and signed my sheet and asked me to get lost.

Note: All of these above questions were followed by a series of cross-questions. Basically, he will be testing your practical knowledge. If you know the stuff you did on board, you will cruise through!
Capt. George is one of the jolliest, soft-spoken and cheerful captains I have ever seen. My Fun 1 orals lasted for almost 1 Hour 40-55 Minutes. Not only did he make sure that I was at ease by sharing his past experiences and anecdotes, but he also helps you a lot if you get stuck or miss out on a point and explains it properly afterward. Except for Rules and Cards. I will give you the same advice my friend gave me on the day of the orals. Capt. George and many others like Capt. Mukhopadhyay observes the way you dress, shave, sit, talk, and behave. All of these factors are for OLQs or Officer Like Qualities. Once you make a good first impression, half the job is done. As soon as you enter the room, the surveyors decide whether to pass you or make sure that you come back next time. One of my friends giving his exam from Kolkata told me about such an incident where Capt. Mukhopadhyay got up to see his attire. INCLUDING SHOES.